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Episode #484
The 8 Profit Activators in Action: Live Hot Seats With Joe Polish and Dean Jackson
Joe Polish and Dean Jackson run through the 8 Profit Activators, the framework that has anchored the show since day one, then open the floor for real time hot seats with a man selling $6 million spots in a round the world power boat race, a Strategic Coach community builder, a business book marketer, and a painter trying to reinvent his industry.
Here’s what you’re about to discover in this conversation:
- The $250 ad and a 24 hour recorded message that turned one Colorado carpet cleaner into $62,000 in his first year, and why a room full of skeptics at a 1990s trade show almost talked Joe out of ever teaching it to anyone else.
- Why Dean Jackson tells a man pitching $6 million national franchises in the first ever round the world power boat race that his entire business case is missing the one thing serious investors need to hear.
- The sticker Joe put on vacuum cleaners, that generated more referrals than any refrigerator magnet ever did (PLUS: the $2 bill he still says is the cheapest referral tool in marketing).
- Why Dean says the real Profit Activator 2 question is never “how do I get a lead,” and what a directory of 100 outdoor wedding venues in Toronto has to do with landing every high paying client a party rental company ever wanted.
- What happens when a painter with almost 30 employees, no formal business training, and a mission to change how tradesmen get paid tells his whole story live on camera, and why Joe and Dean tell him he just delivered his own best marketing without realizing it.
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Where the 8 Profit Activators Came From
- Dean traces the framework back to his own journals, journal number six from 1997, where an early seven step version of the process first shows up.
- The original steps run from selecting a single target market through nurturing lifetime relationships, and Dean later splits “orchestrate referrals” out as its own step, bringing the total to eight.
- Joe and Dean point out that neither of them taught this process before living it. They build real businesses first (carpet cleaning and real estate) and use the Profit Activators as practitioners.
- The framework gets its name once I Love Marketing launches, and it has anchored the show for all 16 years since.
Profit Activator 1: Narrow Your Focus and Select One Target Market
- Dean draws a hard line between selecting a market (deciding proactively who to pursue) and simply being selected (putting content out and hoping the right people find you).
- Most marketing advice pushes people to think wide. Dean argues for the opposite: pick one target market at a time and go after it on purpose.
Profit Activator 2: Use Direct Response Offers to Compel Prospects to Call You
- Joe walks through the free recorded message ad he wrote with Gary Halbert: “How to have your carpets cleaned properly at the lowest possible price,” and explains why the word “properly” is doing all the work.
- The exercise Joe and Dean run with clients asks two things: what would compel someone in your target audience to contact you, and where can you advertise to get the strongest direct response?
- Joe shares the headline he and client Jim Wolverton tested until it worked, “How to get the most thorough cleaning ever, or it’s free,” paired with a free room of carpet cleaning as the offer.
Profit Activator 3: Patiently and Systematically Educate and Motivate Prospects
- Dean cites the research behind the framework: out of 100 people who inquire about anything, just over half eventually act, but only 15% do it inside the first 90 days.
- That means the same batch of 100 leads is worth roughly five times more after the 90 day mark, yet most businesses stop following up right around day nine.
Profit Activator 4: Present Your Unique Service Offer
- Joe replaces the industry standard free estimate with a “carpet audit” paired with a free room of cleaning up to 200 square feet, and it consistently outsells discounting.
- Once he teaches the packaging shift to other carpet cleaners, it raises their average job size by 25% industry wide, simply by repositioning the offer.
Profit Activator 5: Deliver a Dream Come True Experience
- Dean’s framing question: what would be the best possible result you could give a client if they trusted you completely and let you do it, even if it meant charging two, three, or five times more?
- He points out that many businesses only offer a partial solution because of price, when the bigger opportunity is architecting the full “dream come true” outcome and pricing it accordingly.
Profit Activator 6: Provide After Sales Service
- Joe’s low cost, high impact follow ups include mailed carpet spotters, branded doormats that cut particulate soil tracked into a house by 10 to 20%, handwritten thank you cards, and rain check car washes.
- He connects it to a recent dinner with longtime friend Robert Cialdini: restaurants hand out an after dinner mint so guests leave with a good taste in their mouth, and every business needs its own version.
- Dean adds the bigger opportunity: equip happy clients to introduce the people who compliment their results (like a dinner guest admiring freshly cleaned carpets) to the same service.
Profit Activator 7: Nurture Lifetime Relationships
- Dean’s mental model: once you have done the work (in his example, cleaning someone’s carpets), think of yourself as having “carpets under management,” the incumbent who runs uncontested as long as you keep winning trust.
Profit Activator 8: Orchestrate Referrals
- Joe distinguishes a true orchestrated referral, where someone actively introduces you, from a passive or reactive one that just happens by luck.
- His two low tech referral tools from the 1990s: a bright sticker on a client’s vacuum cleaner reminding them who to call, and a $2 bill mailed as a thank you for every referral, both chosen because people will not throw them away.
- Dean’s rule for language: ask to be “introduced,” not “referred,” the same way a single friend would rather be introduced to a date than simply referred to one.
Hot Seat: Ralph’s $6 Million Global Power Boat Racing League
- Ralph is building the first ever round the world power boat race, selling one national franchise per country at $6 million before the price doubles, and compares it to Formula 1’s old Concorde Agreement and Major League Soccer’s original ownership structure.
- Dean names the gap in Ralph’s pitch directly: proven leagues like the NFL or Formula 1 already carry decades of revenue and history, while Ralph is currently selling a proposition, not yet a proven asset.
- Joe’s advice: get specific about what buyers actually want (status, exclusivity, bragging rights) instead of selling the league itself, and use Keith Cunningham’s “thinking time” from The Road Less Stupid to map out exactly how the first sale needs to go.
Hot Seat: Andrew on Referrals for High Ticket Luxury Clients
- Andrew works inside Dan Sullivan’s Strategic Coach community and asks how Profit Activator 8 applies to high ticket, luxury clients.
- Dean’s example: a Rolls Royce dealer arranges for a custom tailor to gift a sport coat to a customer as a thank you, because Rolls Royce buyers are also the kind of people who wear bespoke suits.
- Joe explains why he is one of Strategic Coach’s top referrers, crediting over 400 members, and traces it to raising his own status in the room, a genuine belief in the program, and a personal rule against affiliate deals so his referrals stay trustworthy.
- Andrew shares his own tactic: handing out Dan Sullivan’s quarterly books and inviting people to “introduce,” never “refer,” friends to upcoming events, which builds a relationship instead of chasing a quick sale.
Hot Seat: Mario on Overcoming “Head Trash” When Selling Expertise
- Mario markets business books and asks how to get already established experts past the ego and self doubt that keeps them from publishing.
- Joe’s example: a multimillion dollar client once told him, “I don’t want to be embarrassed,” proof that most resistance is ego management, not a bad offer.
- Dean’s real estate parallel: adding “even if you can afford to pay cash” to a zero down payment ad protects buyers’ egos and removes the hidden objection that was killing response.
- Both agree the real lesson is Profit Activator 2 in disguise. Nobody wants the book itself. They want what having the book (credibility, authority, converted leads) will do for them.
Hot Seat: Alejandro on Building a Painting Business That Uplifts Workers
- Alejandro, a former 10th grade dropout who got sober and started by painting, now runs a commercial painting company with almost 30 employees working on projects from boutique hotels to a $50 million Palm Beach renovation.
- His mission: reform how tradesmen and craftsmen get paid, and create a path for the immigrant workers on his crew, some of whom have been with him for six years, to build stable, legal lives in the US.
- Joe’s read on the business: Alejandro is not really selling painting. He is selling connection, and his own unscripted story, told on camera with his art in the background, is more compelling marketing than any pitch he could write.
- Dean’s closing point: art and authentic stories do not get sold, they get seen, and the fastest path forward for Alejandro is getting his story in front of the people who are already wired to respond to it.








