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Episode #HealthyLife

Back Pain Permanent Healing: Understanding the Myths, Lies, and Confusion About Pain | Steve Ozanich and Joe Polish


In this Episode, you’ll discover how to be a better entrepreneur with better health.  You’ll learn how to live the healthy, happy life you deserve, the root cause of pain, how pain can be associated with personality, TMS, and more with Steve Ozanich.

Steve Ozanich is a Mind Body Health Consultant, Health Coach, and Author of The Great Pain Deception, Dr. John Sarno’s Top 10 Healing Discoveries, and Back Pain: Permanent Healing – Understanding the Myth, Lies, and Confusion… and is committed to reduce suffering around health.


Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Steve Ozanich in this episode:

  • One discovery that saved Steve Ozanich’s life and helped him go from being in pain for 30 years to being pain-free and feeling better than ever
  • The Root Cause of Pain: Steve explains the myths, lies and confusion about back pain, knee pain, hip pain and more, and what really causes pain
  • Think surgery is your only option? It may not be true. Here’s why so many people are getting operated on needlessly and unnecessarily and what you need to know before deciding a medical procedure is your only solution…
  • Who Dr. John Sarno is, what TMS is and why some doctor’s diagnoses can often be dangerously wrong
  • Could personality be causing your health problems? Steve shares some surprising insights about how pain is connected to personality
  • Steve reveals the 3 main elements associated with the healing process and why trying to reduce pain could be making your pain worse
  • How to get back to living the healthy, happy life you desire and deserve

  • Joe introduces Steve Ozanich [01:38]
  • Pain–what it is, how to deal with it, and how to combat it [02:04]
  • The skepticism around pain: Steve did not believe a word of Dr. Sarno’s book before studying pain himself [04:25]
  • Howard Stern talked about how Dr. Sarno cured his back pain [04:45]
  • Steve suffered from back pain for years [05:48]
    • He tried EVERYTHING he could imagine to cure the pain [06:26]
    • The book says, “Pain is not coming from the structure of the spine but from autonomic nervous system” [06:52]
    • After reading the book with a lens of doubt, Steve’s condition got worse, so he decided to read the book again, but with an open mind [07:31]
    • Pain-free for 16 years – what was the difference? [07:44]
    • Joe shares his experiences with pain in various forms [08:30]
    • Joe’s back pain was 95% gone in two weeks after he connected with Steve [09:04]
    • Steve has no treatment modality [10:35]
    • Dr. Sarno’s background [12:05]
    • How Personality Type plays a role in pain – could your drive be causing it?  [14:37]
    • People are too focused on making everything right [15:08]
    • Dr. Sarno’s infamous patient “Helen” [16:12]
    • Tension Myoneural Syndrome (TMS) or the Mind Body Syndrome [17:16]
    • Our thoughts can kill us or heal us [18:10]
    • The most expensive information is bad information [20:56]
    • The way most people are currently treating pain isn’t just wrong, it’s dangerous [21:25]
    • There are a lot of people who refuse to believe people like Dr. Sarno and studies that confirm his work [22:41]
    • People don’t want to believe them because they feel too “structural” [23:10]
    • The thoughts and emotions you are unaware of are all happening in the subconscious [24:28]
    • Why Chiropractors are now Steve’s strongest allies [25:11]
    • Having an open mind can save your life [25:39]
    • The reason we’re so resistant to new or off-the-wall ideas is because of the brain, it’s a defense mechanism [25:58]
    • Modern medicine has saved a lot of lives, but it has also destroyed a lot of lives [26:29]
    • This is not an anti-science, anti-doctor message [27:34]
    • Most of the medical marketing that is effective is being effective in the wrong ways [29:43]
    • The Wall of Victory on Steve’s website [30:27]
    • Joe’s work on Artists for Addicts [31:31]
    • Addiction is a solution that leads to more problems [32:15]
    • People who reported pain had the highest scores on the psychosocial stress scale [34:54]
    • All existing scientific evidence suggests herniated discs don’t actually cause pain [36:45]
    • Doctors are trying to do the right thing but the byproduct of that effort is, more often than not, more harm to the patient [39:02]
    • Joe talks about knee pain [39:42]
    • Steve’s EPS Denouement [42:20]
    • Vertebroplasty as an example of herniated discs not causing pain [44:42]
    • The body is strong but we are led to believe it’s weak [46:26]
    • The Great Pain Deception is not a how-to book [48:11]
    • The goal is to eliminate the need to heal [49:31]
    • The symptom imperative will shift to other parts of your body [50:23]
    • Joe shares his experience in the gym with fitness and pain [52:40]
    • For the past several days, Joe has been experiencing back pain, so he’s doing some experimenting to see how he can fix it [56:24]
    • He’s being his own human lab rat [58:28]
    • Joe’s pains went away when he quit doing treatments [1:02:24]
    • Do nothing for pain reduction [1:03:38]
    • If you want to heal, get that TMS exam [1:05:59]
    • Healing begins with knowledge then wisdom [1:07:00]
    • Health problems are the result of our personality [1:08:42]
    • Steve mentions Lisa Frank’s Mind, Body, and Healing [1:10:21]
    • Ego is at the very heart of all our sufferings [1:12:20]
    • When people don’t pay, they don’t pay attention…that’s why affixing a cost to something is so important [1:14:36]
    • Someone that pays shows up with a different sort of attention and a deeper commitment to listening and learning [1:15:52]
    • The TMS Wall of Victory [1:22:30]
    • Addiction and TMS are responses to pain and trauma [1:25:00]
    • Remember the definition of insanity [1:27:07]
    • Get in touch with Steve on his website [1:27:18]
    • Back Pain Permanent Healing: Understanding the Myths, Lies, and Confusion [1:27:48]
    • The body by nature’s design knows how to heal itself [1:29:23]
    • Steve wants to be successful to help more people [1:30:19]

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