Episode #223

How to achieve greatness, mastery and enduring fulfillment

Interview with Robin Sharma

In this episode Joe Polish interviews Robin Sharma, author of The Leader Who Had No Title. Robin Sharma is a writer and speaker who’s touched the lives of millions of people with his thoughts on leadership, self-mastery, and service.

About Robin Sharma:

Robin S. Sharma is a Canadian writer, famous speaker, leadership expert and a former Litigation lawyer. He is the author of 15 global best sellers, including The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari and The Leader Who Had No Title.

Here’s a glance at what you’ll learn from Robin Sharma in this episode:

  • A 3-part formula that puts you on the path to achieving physical mastery, unleashing your talent and igniting your life
  • What the most successful people in the world know about having deep happiness, boundless energy and enduring fulfillment
  • How to flip your leadership switch and step into the life you were meant to live
  • A way to transform heartache and struggle into pleasure, possibility and joy

  • Introduction [00:45]
  • Robin’s the author of The Leader Who Had No Title [01:00]
  • “It’s important to get enough rest – I try to be kind to my body when I travel”  [01:10]
  • What does a typical day look like for Robin? [01:50]
  • Robin uses the 20/20/20 formula: [02:20]
  • 20 minutes of intense exercise as soon as you wake up
  • 20 minutes to plan your day
  • 20 minutes of learning
  • When people stop learning, they stop being great teachers [06:15]
  • Be an instrument of service: as soon as your ego takes over, your gifts and talents stop being of service [07:10]
  • The shiny toys that the ego sells us don’t bring sustainable happiness and fulfilment [07:30]
  • “We’re all a bunch of dust…The great billionaires get buried next to the taxi drivers and the pizza makers and we are not that big a deal.”  [08:00]
  • Meaning comes from internal power and internal joy [09:00]
  • “Do you think that anyone can be a leader, and what does it take?” [10:10]
  • Leadership is a way of thinking and a way of being: it’s the opposite of being a victim. Anyone can be a leader. [10:45]
  • “The number one way we give away our power is thinking we don’t have any.” [12:00]
  • “What if someone genuinely was a victim? What actions can they take to recondition themselves?” [13:00]
  • Robin was stunned by the commitment of the janitor in the men’s room at the Johannesburg airport [14:00]
  • Nelson Mandela: The things that could break your heart can open your heart [15:20]
  • If we accept the responsibility of our bigness in the world, we have to face our fear [16:00]
  • What is power? [18:01]
  • Personal power is your essence: it’s the ability to unleash the creativity inside you and bring it to make the world better  [18:10]
  • “What are the commonalities of people who achieve greatness?” [20:50]
  • People who become great are those who trust in their vision when the world thinks they’re crazy [21:00]
  • “Surround yourself with the right people” [21:30]
  • “The marketplace always pays for mastery [23:10]
  • Get your personal routines and habits right [23:40]
  • Great people are driven by a cause. If your motivation is money, it’s never going to sustain you. [24:30]
  • “What are your thoughts on ‘finding your passion’ versus ‘pursuing your skill’?” [26:30]
  • “Vague goals lead to vague results” [28:55]
  • Your days are your life in miniature: Achieve a series of great days and your life will take care of itself [29:50]
  • Camus: “In the midst of winter I found within me an invincible summer” [31:30]
  • The times in the wilderness when your life is falling apart are the times when you grow. You can look at your fear and not let it control you [32:20]
  • “I think it does a disservice to the world to pretend that gurus are perfect…we’re all a work in progress” [35:20]
  • The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari was edited by Robin’s mother and rejected by several publishers [36:10]
  • Invest in education versus entertainment; surround yourselves with the right people [40:00]
  • “The great thing about being a human is that you get to define life on your own terms” [40:30]
  • One of the leaders of the Vietnamese people during the Vietnam War lived in a small guest house instead of the official residence: because he didn’t want to be distracted by possessions [43:00]
  • Focus on internal power and self-identity [44:20]
  • “You are not your fears…fears are just an emotion. If you’re scared, you’re growing.” [45:20]
  • “Energy is more important than intelligence. Look after your energy with fitness and diet.” [46:00]
  • The Titan’s Decline: What makes a legend versus a fad? “The moment you think you know everything, it’s the beginning of obsolescence” [49:30]
  • Self-mastery and leadership are skills: you have to do the work. [51:30]
  • “Whatever you do, bring your A-game every day” [53:20]
  • Be all about bringing value. Make it your obsession and your mission to be bringing value to the world [54:20]
  • “The real work of a leader and an entrepreneur is all within. It’s owning your power, owning your talent, and knowing what you believe in.” [57:00]
  • How does Robin want to be remembered? [01:01:24]
  • “Right now I don’t care. Legacy is an ego trap. We’re just a bunch of dust. All I want to do know is leave people better than I found them.” [01:02:50]
  • “What are the trade-offs?” [01:03:00]
  • One of the trade-offs is that you will bring out the haters. You can pursue your vision or you can be liked, but you can’t do both. [01:04:00]

Contact Robin Sharma at his blog, Facebook or Twitter [01:05:30]